18+ MUGEN content and people that disagree with it

[LATER HERO]

I was reading some comments in the chatbox, I just found these messages
User 1: I want to download roper 18+ where is it?
User 2: @User 1 pervert
User 2: MUGEN is an holy fighting game, not an 18+ one
User 2: I am sorry but I can't hold this opinion for me
User 2: No offence but the MUGEN must be and remain holy
User 2: And at least stop asking about 18+ characters here in public chat you pervs
User 3: @User 2 Agreed. I hate 18+ content. It ruined MUGEN completely...

So I just felt curiosity and I download this character (from other website) that I even didn't know about it
That Roper 18+ resulted be a creature with a very noticable phallic shape. Yeah, even it's appearance was unplaseant to see.
And watching it on action well, that was... Oh man! I even feel disgust just to remember it's attacks
Yeah, that Roper makes me feel nauseous.

Beyond all of that the User 1 just was asking one question
I mean, he didn't use offensive language, either described the disgusting nature of the character
It just asked for that character in particular. So here the User 2 get in the chat and named pervert to User 1 (Which was obviously disrespectful for User 1). And then started to speak trash about 18+ MUGEN content. Holy Crap with this User 2! How on earth someone can name "Holy" to MUGEN? "MUGEN is an holy fighting game, not an 18+ one" here I got news to  User 2: MUGEN feature some characters that enters in the categories of victims and aggressors. This is not new stuff, and the way User 2 express itself is ridiculous. As I said User 1 did it's question while was behaving with measure. According to AK1 rules the users must to keep respect to others but that that rule no matters to User 2. That user is fully convinced that is on the "GOOD SIDE" and other people that have different likes are in the "EVIL SIDE" And and to make the situation worse User 3 enters to the conversation "I hate 18+ content. It ruined MUGEN completely..."

What these people don't seem to understand is 18+ MUGEN content is just a fraction of it and people who likes it deserve respect like everybody else but that doesn't seem to be the case "18+ content ruined MUGEN completely". Wow! I guess the User 3 is being obligate to consume 18+ MUGEN content by other person who is pointing a gun at it... All of the legal age should have the liberty to use this kind of content no matters what, even the liberty to expressing it but it seems not. I even read later some comment posted by User 3 demanding to keep children away of that content. I understand the point but this isn't the appropiate way to state it. If people are fearing that their children can get access to inadecuate content for them, you know what could be better: to have a good communications with their children. Teach them that they should not consume that kind of content. People can even check the activities or content downloaded by them. If fathers doesn´t know MUGEN at all well, it would be fine that they learn about their children likes of video-games. Just keep in mind that there is a huge group of adults who play games as well and when I'm saying games I'm refering MUGEN, of course.

In conclusion 18+ MUGEN content makes me sick, but people that don´t respect the other's MUGEN preferences are worst. Definetly.

[arell]

First off mugen is not a fighting game to begin with it's a customizable engine for fighting games.
Secondly, you may put what ever content you want in this engine if users aren't comfortable with 18+ content then don't download it...don't remove it from the site entirely, it's not necessary since the site gives warnings about the content being mature/adult content. 
Thirdly, Everyone is allowed to put whatever they want into their rosters. I have an entire 18+ roster and then a safe for work roster for posting videos with. Your roster your rules, your choice and your FREEDOM! Holy or not the user in question may have been referring to his mugen being holy? if not and may have meant to be for all of mugen to be "holy" i mean it's fine..it could be by his rosters standards but do not oppress others for their choices...religiously, culturally or even socially...these choices are offered to us everyday we choose and we make our own rules but these said rules do not apply to every server or site you go to, respect that and move on. do what you do. For me i make large variety rosters and i love joke edits but i tamper with 18+ stuff at times and i enjoy naked females fighting each other or some hentai monsters. 
all in all Mugen united us as a community for our love of what the engine does and what it offers not by the rules we make for it but for the content we download and appreciate everyday.   

[Kano1]

on the news on tv I often hear that there are students who **** students but on the news it is said that this student was tortured first with a water pipe in the V$%^tittittii&&#$% the possible culprit is a mugen gamer and Xporn because the water pipe is like a tentacle and the culprit is a child who is still in school and this news might make the police wonder whether this kind of ridiculous news is also worth publishing? One thing is for sure, if Mugen does not limit the age of 18- to 18+, visitors to the Mugen site will definitely need a proxy to access the mugen site. the same as accessing porn sites

Please note that each country has different policies in reducing criminal cases that occur in their country, at least the freest country in the world is the only best proxy country for mugen access and porn access.

the majority of players who only aim to play the game will not agree about the freedom for children under 18+ because they have to use proxies for downloading And I found that the majority of Mugen 18+ are using Japan Voice andwhich is not a free  country that's like #$%^ countries

 women caracter voice said =my neighbors recognize my voice and i never donate my voice for 18+ but T_T my voice appears there and I was ashamed of my neighbor when I found out that he was a mugen player

my personal opinion is = whether mugen should be clean or not i didn't find a solution for this

 

 

 

 

 

[Allyallea]

1 hour ago, Kano1 said:

on the news on tv I often hear that there are students who **** students but on the news it is said that this student was tortured first with a water pipe in the V$%^tittittii&&#$% the possible culprit is a mugen gamer and Xporn because the water pipe is like a tentacle and the culprit is a child who is still in school and this news might make the police wonder whether this kind of ridiculous news is also worth publishing? One thing is for sure, if Mugen does not limit the age of 18- to 18+, visitors to the Mugen site will definitely need a proxy to access the mugen site. the same as accessing porn sites

Please note that each country has different policies in reducing criminal cases that occur in their country, at least the freest country in the world is the only best proxy country for mugen access and porn access.

the majority of players who only aim to play the game will not agree about the freedom for children under 18+ because they have to use proxies for downloading And I found that the majority of Mugen 18+ are using Japan Voice andwhich is not a free  country that's like #$%^ countries

 women caracter voice said =my neighbors recognize my voice and i never donate my voice for 18+ but T_T my voice appears there and I was ashamed of my neighbor when I found out that he was a mugen player

my personal opinion is = whether mugen should be clean or not i didn't find a solution for this

 

 

 

 

 

The fact that fiction encourages these illicit acts seems to me one of the most ridiculous theories in the history of mankind. (And that unfortunately many are already beginning to believe) Does playing violent video games make you violent? Will viewing +18 content make you perform these acts? Not at all. So anyone who has performed a fatality in mortal kombat does not mean that he will do it in real life. See the logic. It would be the same as saying that in Hollywood movies the poor, ugly and humble stay with the pretty girl for the simple power of love and now all people fall in love with poor and ugly boys. I will deny this fact of incitement.

Spoiler

https://youtu.be/PnDOTu4gJuo A clear example (I don't know how to put videos, lol)
And secondly, there are many more, I just don't want to add more since they seem sick to me)

And yes, the media always tell this news. He watches the news, saying things like Friday Night Funkin is from the devil and things like that. Believing them leads nowhere.
Back to the topic. Children should really be brought up by their parents, not by the media (and adults shouldn't be brought up by them either).

My personal opinion. It is fiction, they are pixels. They are just simple pixels. We are not in a matrix. You have to know how to differentiate between what is fiction and what is real.

[Kano1]

in fact children aged 18- are protected from 18+ content by the Nationin general we can't go against it with personal opinion

the second fact is that most countries in the world block 18+ sites so that access to these sites can only be achieved through proxies

if you feel it reduces the freedom of children under 18+ try talking to their leader

 women caracter voice said =my neighbors recognize my voice and i never donate my voice for 18+ but T_T my voice appears there and I was ashamed of my neighbor when I found out that he was a mugen player

my personal opinion is = whether mugen should be clean or not i didn't find a solution for this

 

 

Edited January 11, 2022 by Kano1

[erel]

In general, children are very happy to imitate their idols even if their idols are antagonists and hentai characters

and sexual desire is the most can't deviate and if I look at 18+ characters it tends to deviate
because sexual activity must be done by both partners who love each other and they are married

I can't imagine why women18+ have to have sex with a tentacle , drill , chainsaw or even with monster fingers

moreover that character is wearing school clothes why not a woman in sexy clothes who from the start dressed like a prostitute ?

I approve of sexy characters as 18+ characters but I reject school girls as 18+.because that is what we see most often

even if i partially approve 18+ i will also never let 18 - watch it because children are the future of the nation

one of the obligations of parents is if he becomes trash then don't let his children be like him but if the parents are the best then the children must be better

 

[Allyallea]

4 hours ago, erel said:

In general, children are very happy to imitate their idols even if their idols are antagonists and hentai characters

and sexual desire is the most can't deviate and if I look at 18+ characters it tends to deviate
because sexual activity must be done by both partners who love each other and they are married

I can't imagine why women18+ have to have sex with a tentacle , drill , chainsaw or even with monster fingers

moreover that character is wearing school clothes why not a woman in sexy clothes who from the start dressed like a prostitute ?

I approve of sexy characters as 18+ characters but I reject school girls as 18+.because that is what we see most often

even if i partially approve 18+ i will also never let 18 - watch it because children are the future of the nation

one of the obligations of parents is if he becomes trash then don't let his children be like him but if the parents are the best then the children must be better

 

Do you mean that a woman cannot dress as she wants and that she is automatically a prostitute for dressing up as a schoolgirl?
Children are exposed to a lot of unsuitable content but it is not the fault of the content. I highly doubt that a child by playing a violent video game automatically becomes a murderer or tries to shoot people in the street. (And in case that happens, the fault is not of the video game).

Personally, I think it's okay if you want to ban your child from viewing such content. But removing it from the entire internet would be no solution.

Edited January 12, 2022 by Allyallea

[erel]

49 minutes ago, Allyallea said:

 

schoolgirls are good clothes

but setting it as 18+ I don't think it's a good thing since there are a lot of kids wearing school uniforms

Children are something we must protect but i agree if you make mai siranui as 18+ it's not a problem

[Kano1]

10 minutes ago, erel said:

schoolgirls are good clothes

but setting it as 18+ I don't think it's a good thing since there are a lot of kids wearing school uniforms

Children are something we must protect but i agree if you make mai siranui as 18+ it's not a problem

I agree with this especially if it's your self-made character and your voice but many 18+ are edited and use the voice of a good woman

If you ask the woman they will say I don't want my voice to be misused for this kind of thing

[Kano1]

I think there is nothing more to argue about because we are just people with different understandings and cultures

one thing we know the difference between you all and us if the mugen site becomes very dirty then we only need to use a proxy to visit this site

and it's your people who will provide a proxy for us and never forbid us to use a proxy to visit your site

[arell]

4 hours ago, Kano1 said:

I think there is nothing more to argue about because we are just people with different understandings and cultures

one thing we know the difference between you all and us if the mugen site becomes very dirty then we only need to use a proxy to visit this site

and it's your people who will provide a proxy for us and never forbid us to use a proxy to visit your site

the fact you dragged in politics and kids was unnecessary. it doesn't matter what culture or region your from if a kid is smart enough to download a proxy then the one at fault is the parent or guardian of the child. blaming the site has never worked. a lot of sites do quite a lot of work making sure the content cannot be downloaded by minors.

yep the blame game...media got you too huh? the ones at fault are the ones who claim themselves as parents who don't pay attention to what the little ones are doing. now they saw porn and instead of being a responsible adult and accepting their own mistakes they pin blame on sites for offering the chance to download mature content. sites don't offer proxies, sites offer content to download either free content or in exchange for money. 

all of this being sparked by someone claiming mugen should be holy to...kids getting proxies and bypassing security and regions with their different laws. let's put it this way if a kid can play on mom's or dad's pc then no proxies required, they can straight up download stuff they ain't supposed to have all under their parents names.

[Kano1]

14 hours ago, arell said:

 

parents will be totally wrong if he doesn't blame because actually in this world many parents let their children do this kind of thing and get pregnant out of wedlock then bad parents are those who order to kill the baby

in general a child who is smart enough to break into his own security to download proxies is very rare because proxies are not taught in school and not all proxies are completely unblocked by internet service providers 

 

[LATER HERO]

On 1/12/2022 at 12:00 AM, erel said:

I can't imagine why women18+ have to have sex with a tentacle , drill , chainsaw or even with monster fingers

moreover that character is wearing school clothes why not a woman in sexy clothes who from the start dressed like a prostitute ?

I approve of sexy characters as 18+ characters but I reject school girls as 18+.because that is what we see most often

Haha!, really man? So characters like Sakura Kasugano (Street Fighter Alpha series) must be "protected" because she is a schoolgirl  . Oh man... You gotta be kidding me.

It's well known that schoolgirls appear very often in japanese mangas and of course hentai mangas as well. When the mangakas (people who draw/script) these mangas the only thing they are doing is expressing their FANTASIES and nothing else, not their REALITIES . The same applies with any other 18+ media anime, OVAS etc. Fictional characters don't exist. Or don't you know that waifus, lolis etc in Japan don't exist in real life? Duh! Is it really so difficult to differentiate fantasy from reality? Do you know what would be better? That you will respect the tastes and preferences from other people. RESPECT is the word.

What I've heard about Japan is a very conservative country. The real japanese shoolgirls are like anybody else, they have feelings, they are thinking beings and of course they are not sexual objects like in FICTIONAL STORIES In fact that mini-skirts commonly founded in anime, games etc does not correspond with reality.  In fact japanese people live sick by the rules and that's why they like a lot fictional stories 'cause in them all rules are broken It is so obvious...

 

On 1/12/2022 at 5:23 AM, erel said:

schoolgirls are good clothes

but setting it as 18+ I don't think it's a good thing since there are a lot of kids wearing school uniforms

Children are something we must protect but i agree if you make mai siranui as 18+ it's not a problem

So Mai Shiranui (Fatal Fury series) deserve be considered prostitute if she is put on a 18+ media because her sexy clothes only? No, I don't agree.

When you are worry about "children" in fact you are worry about children drawings (schoolgirls, waifus, lolis etc) instead of real people. So again let's learn to differentiate fantasy from reality PLEASE!!

 

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