Amaterachu1 Posted April 27, 2022 Report Share Posted April 27, 2022 There's a channel in the AK1 discord called mugen tournaments so it got me thinking of ways to do this. Videos uploaded on AK1's channel (or mine) with requested teams put into a tournament. Now this can go many weird ways and cheapness and crazy things might happen and what not, but how does it sound? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoke Choked Posted April 27, 2022 Report Share Posted April 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Amaterachu1 said: There's a channel in the AK1 discord called mugen tournaments so it got me thinking of ways to do this. Videos uploaded on AK1's channel (or mine) with requested teams put into a tournament. Now this can go many weird ways and cheapness and crazy things might happen and what not, but how does it sound? My only questions are: What are the rules for this tournament? What is the deadline for signups? When would the tournament be taking place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaterachu1 Posted April 28, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2022 We don't know yet this is just if a hypothetical tournament were to ever start on the AK1 channel. I'd likely have a no cheapies rule but where exactly the bar for that is up for debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoke Choked Posted April 28, 2022 Report Share Posted April 28, 2022 17 minutes ago, Amaterachu1 said: We don't know yet this is just if a hypothetical tournament were to ever start on the AK1 channel. I'd likely have a no cheapies rule but where exactly the bar for that is up for debate. You could rely on SpriteClub tiers https://spriteclub.tv/characters 5th Division is average, competent A.I. 4th Division is stronger than 5th, but still average 3rd Division is cheap, but not absolutely broken 2nd Division is the penultimate tier, due to just how cheap they are 1st Division is the characters who are infamous for winning in most scenarios, but they are not unstoppable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaterachu1 Posted April 28, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2022 Well my team is Riesbyfe IQS_AI and Blackheart Cyanide with carbuncle ai patch and if Riesbyfe is 2nd division then Blackheart is probably there but I don't consider them cheap Meanwhile Mario 64 is in 3rd division who I consider cheap, but he's only below Riesbyfe because his AI is rather quite poor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperOverlord Yeet Posted April 28, 2022 Report Share Posted April 28, 2022 I also can recommend to use the GUMHOY's Rating Test for testing and some characters on SC might be mistier'd like for example Dexgigas's Kasen And Dank Meme Nanaya and the Rating Test just use either Elque or ZET's Shana especially Shana because she's better low 2nd as a gatekeeper for the tournaments and whoever if the characters win once they gets the boot I guess and if they lose to her a couple of time they are allowed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaterachu1 Posted April 28, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2022 25 minutes ago, SuperOverlord Yeet said: I also can recommend to use the GUMHOY's Rating Test for testing and some characters on SC might be mistier'd like for example Dexgigas's Kasen And Dank Meme Nanaya and the Rating Test just use either Elque or ZET's Shana especially Shana because she's better low 2nd as a gatekeeper for the tournaments and whoever if the characters win once they gets the boot I guess and if they lose to her a couple of time they are allowed ZET's Shana does sound like a good gatekeeper. Do you have a link for Elque? ----------------------------------- Also generally for me -No one shot kills (Dural from Virtua Fighter) -No bs counters that ignore moves or just break a combo for no apparent reason (Taokaka AI Patch, Dengeki characters shouting "That's a counter!" for the 568th time) -No crazy infinites that take forever (Unkoman stuff) -No bosses that cant take hitstun -If you're shooting laser pillars all over the screen and just don't have any counterplay in mind whatsoever then you're broken 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperOverlord Yeet Posted April 28, 2022 Report Share Posted April 28, 2022 (edited) elque.zip "-No one shot kills (Dural from Virtua Fighter)" I mean that's depends if the character and its AI ether AI rareing using it the OHKO or the AI of the character spamm it constantly like Snowwolf's most characters and Sintls but I would say banned them but allow characters like Zeeky H. Bomb because of if the opponent is quick enough and smart enough they can cancel Zeeky H. Bomb's OHKO Edited April 28, 2022 by SuperOverlord Yeet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaterachu1 Posted April 28, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2022 You can't possibly convince me that a character whose gimmick is throwing a bunch of projectiles at someone who has a super move that makes them untouchable or else the opponent dies isn't overpowered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperOverlord Yeet Posted April 28, 2022 Report Share Posted April 28, 2022 BRUH Are you calling Zeeky H. Bomb a gimmick character first off *is throwing a bunch of projectiles at someone who has a super move that makes them untouchable or else the opponent dies isn't overpowered* that doesn't even sound like a gimmick and IIRC Zeeky H. Bomb has two OHKO one of them is a counter like I saying if the opponent is quick enough and smart enough they can cancel or grab him out of it Zeeky H. Bomb's OHKO and Zeeky H. Bomb isn't even that much of spammer, characters like Shin Zeeky H. Bomb is worst in a way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaterachu1 Posted April 28, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2022 7 minutes ago, SuperOverlord Yeet said: BRUH Are you calling Zeeky H. Bomb a gimmick character first off *is throwing a bunch of projectiles at someone who has a super move that makes them untouchable or else the opponent dies isn't overpowered* that doesn't even sound like a gimmick and IIRC Zeeky H. Bomb has two OHKO one of them is a counter like I saying if the opponent is quick enough and smart enough they can cancel or grab him out of it Zeeky H. Bomb's OHKO and Zeeky H. Bomb isn't even that much of spammer, characters like Shin Zeeky H. Bomb is worst in a way He still got a one shot either way. He probably wouldn't last in a tournament but he still has bannable qualities. Like I said, the line of what's chepa and not goes all over the place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperOverlord Yeet Posted April 28, 2022 Report Share Posted April 28, 2022 So you are pretty much calling Zeeky H. Bomb a cheap character or a gimmick character? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaterachu1 Posted April 28, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2022 Yes he is cheap. And he literally is a gimmick character. His whole moveset is just projectiles with no normals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoke Choked Posted April 28, 2022 Report Share Posted April 28, 2022 I'm not sure whether to do a themed team or a prior tournament winning team The themed team would be Dr. Robotnik (blazemanxd's version) and Zeta (I'm_Glenn_Quagmire's version) The tournament team would be Shovel Knight (RoySquadRocks's version with Holn's A.I. patch) and Piplup's 7th Evolution, who were the final two characters of the SALTY TOURNAMENT FINALS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaterachu1 Posted April 28, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2022 1 minute ago, DejaVuFlame said: I'm not sure whether to do a themed team or a prior tournament winning team The themed team would be Dr. Robotnik (blazemanxd's version) and Zeta (I'm_Glenn_Quagmire's version) The tournament team would be Shovel Knight (RoySquadRocks's version with Holn's A.I. patch) and Piplup's 7th Evolution, who were the final two characters of the SALTY TOURNAMENT FINALS There's some pretty cool themed teams that do good. I have Riesbyfe and Blackheart for black and white A team that has stuck with me ever since I first saw it in a really old MUGEN tournament is Guts and Goat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergio P Posted April 28, 2022 Report Share Posted April 28, 2022 26 minutes ago, Amaterachu1 said: Yes he is cheap. And he literally is a gimmick character. His whole moveset is just projectiles with no normals The year is 2022 and people still call Zeeky cheap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoke Choked Posted April 28, 2022 Report Share Posted April 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, Amaterachu1 said: There's some pretty cool themed teams that do good. I have Riesbyfe and Blackheart for black and white A team that has stuck with me ever since I first saw it in a really old MUGEN tournament is Guts and Goat. Ah yeah, Guts and Goat. Those two were a team back in the golden age of Character Wars, back when he was known as TheMattalocalypse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaterachu1 Posted April 28, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Sergio P said: The year is 2022 and people still call Zeeky cheap Okay fine, Zeeky isn't cheap. Zeeky breaks a rule that makes him unusable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoke Choked Posted April 28, 2022 Report Share Posted April 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Amaterachu1 said: Okay fine, Zeeky isn't cheap. Zeeky breaks a rule that makes him unusable. Zeeky was cheap by the standards of the golden age of M.U.G.E.N. Zeeky got cheaper years later when turned into Shin Zeeky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaterachu1 Posted April 28, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2022 Just now, DejaVuFlame said: Zeeky was cheap by the standards of the golden age of M.U.G.E.N. Zeeky got cheaper years later when turned into Shin Zeeky No since Zeeky's gimmick is projectiles on every attack he has no way to deal with characters up close especially since he has a shite ton of cooldown. Shin Zeeky is just a completely different character where the limits of the projectiles thrown seem non apparent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoke Choked Posted April 28, 2022 Report Share Posted April 28, 2022 Just now, Amaterachu1 said: No since Zeeky's gimmick is projectiles on every attack he has no way to deal with characters up close especially since he has a shite ton of cooldown. Shin Zeeky is just a completely different character where the limits of the projectiles thrown seem non apparent Which is exactly what I am saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperOverlord Yeet Posted April 28, 2022 Report Share Posted April 28, 2022 Shin Zeeky still would not be allowed because I heard that Shin Zeeky can take down ZET's Shana easily and ZET's Shana is the gatekeeper for the tournament soooooooooooooo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoke Choked Posted April 28, 2022 Report Share Posted April 28, 2022 1 minute ago, SuperOverlord Yeet said: Shin Zeeky still would not be allowed because I heard that Shin Zeeky can take down ZET's Shana easily and ZET's Shana is the gatekeeper for the tournament soooooooooooooo EX-FUCKING-ACTLY, he'd be too busted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luner Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 im trash with any char that get in my hand,but yes i would enter in the tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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